Paul, I always figured that if I pushed hard to get stronger (in the medium-high rep ranges - 5-20) at the same rate I was gaining weight, I could maximize how much of that gain was "solid." How do you feel about that idea?
For example, if I was doing the work to move my squat from 315x10 to 365x10 and my bench from 225x10 to 265x10, and gaining weight during that time, I would be doing the best I could do to keep it solid. (Assuming my diet is "good enough" within reasonable bounds -- plenty of protein, etc.)
Your body can only build muscle so far. It's important to keep your fat gain in check even when eating to gain. You can't use your strength to gauge your bodyfat levels. That's like saying I will use how much gas I have in my car to know if the oil needs to be changed. Not really comparable.
Totally unrelated to the video but I'm running Bill Starr's/Madcow's 5x5 3 day full body routine per week. On day 2 deadlifts are listed for 4x5. Ever since I started doing deadlifts it seems as though my squats have went into the shitter and never rebounded. I'm going to drop deadlifts and substitute high pulls (Olympic lift replacement for deads). I know deadlift is a lift to bow down to and blah blah blah but I feel I have to make some kind of change. I've already tried squatting at a high percentage, squatting less, adding leg assistance ect. Anyways, have you ever experienced/heard of adverse effects of deadlifts on squat? I know the opposite usually occurs...
sounds like your lower back is overtrained. You have a few options.
You can drop deads, or drop deads WAY back to something like 60% for 4x3.
Or you can pare the squatting back a bit.
Personally, I feel like if your squat is moving and you're doing a lot of back work, you can pull lighter and still be "Strong" in the pull when you need to be.
I pulled 655 at the last week on a torn groin and the most I pulled in training was 605x2. But it was fast.
I think I'll just drop deadlift for now, give it some time, and re-evaluate. Maybe I'll reinstate them and work on form with lower weights.
I also do barbell rows twice a week and I don't seem to be as strong on them either so I definitely think you nailed it with my low back being overtrained.
Last workout I turned them into Pendlays with light weight..surely that won't cause much fuss with the low back.
Well I weigh ~160 so I'm gonna force feed my way to 170-175 lbs.
ReplyDeletePaul, I always figured that if I pushed hard to get stronger (in the medium-high rep ranges - 5-20) at the same rate I was gaining weight, I could maximize how much of that gain was "solid." How do you feel about that idea?
ReplyDeleteFor example, if I was doing the work to move my squat from 315x10 to 365x10 and my bench from 225x10 to 265x10, and gaining weight during that time, I would be doing the best I could do to keep it solid. (Assuming my diet is "good enough" within reasonable bounds -- plenty of protein, etc.)
Your body can only build muscle so far. It's important to keep your fat gain in check even when eating to gain. You can't use your strength to gauge your bodyfat levels. That's like saying I will use how much gas I have in my car to know if the oil needs to be changed. Not really comparable.
DeleteTotally unrelated to the video but I'm running Bill Starr's/Madcow's 5x5 3 day full body routine per week. On day 2 deadlifts are listed for 4x5. Ever since I started doing deadlifts it seems as though my squats have went into the shitter and never rebounded. I'm going to drop deadlifts and substitute high pulls (Olympic lift replacement for deads). I know deadlift is a lift to bow down to and blah blah blah but I feel I have to make some kind of change. I've already tried squatting at a high percentage, squatting less, adding leg assistance ect. Anyways, have you ever experienced/heard of adverse effects of deadlifts on squat? I know the opposite usually occurs...
ReplyDeletesounds like your lower back is overtrained. You have a few options.
DeleteYou can drop deads, or drop deads WAY back to something like 60% for 4x3.
Or you can pare the squatting back a bit.
Personally, I feel like if your squat is moving and you're doing a lot of back work, you can pull lighter and still be "Strong" in the pull when you need to be.
I pulled 655 at the last week on a torn groin and the most I pulled in training was 605x2. But it was fast.
I think I'll just drop deadlift for now, give it some time, and re-evaluate. Maybe I'll reinstate them and work on form with lower weights.
ReplyDeleteI also do barbell rows twice a week and I don't seem to be as strong on them either so I definitely think you nailed it with my low back being overtrained.
Last workout I turned them into Pendlays with light weight..surely that won't cause much fuss with the low back.